Pimax 8Kx

joe209 · 4. Juli 2020

5-6 Meter sind die doch schon, und die 10m haben die ja sogar bei der 5k Version aus dem programm genommen...
Denke bis die so weit sind gibt es bessere Versionen der pimax... Bzw. Brillen mit dp2.0...
Und die pimax Leute brauchen sehr lange

dstar · 4. Juli 2020

Zitat von joe209: ↑

Und die pimax Leute brauchen sehr lange
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Aber gesamt betrachtet, sind sie noch immer schneller (weiter) wie die Mitbewerber xD

komisch · 4. Juli 2020

Muss Pimax mal eben nebenher noch die Möglichkeit LWL zu nutzen implementieren

joe209 · 4. Juli 2020

Hoffe die experimentieren mal mit lokalem 5g für wireless... Das wäre mal dufte

komisch · 7. Juli 2020

dstar · 7. Juli 2020

Zitat von komisch: ↑

Muss Pimax mal eben nebenher noch die Möglichkeit LWL zu nutzen implementieren
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Haben se doch schon, ist gerade in der Testphase

Zitat von joe209: ↑

mit lokalem 5g
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Wenn das mein Nachbar hört... Oh Gott!

komisch · 7. Juli 2020

Sie testen auch schon seit zwei Jahren oder so ihre Controller...

dstar · 8. Juli 2020

Zitat von komisch: ↑

Sie testen auch schon seit zwei Jahren oder so ihre Controller...
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Nö, die bauen sie ja ständig um. Noch nicht fertig, ist nix zum testen...

Das LWL taucht, wenn ich mich recht erinnere, auch im Video auf.. im Ersten.

SolKutTeR · 10. Juli 2020

Hoffe eure ist auch dabei!

8KX Backer Shipment Advisory
During the Pimax Now event we began shipping the 8KX headsets to X backers and completed shipment of the first batch and began shipment of the 2nd batch as discussed after July 6th.

Some of these shipments have required more time to arrive at the destination than expected so we consulted with our shipping partner (Federal Express) who advised for faster shipments we must provide additional customs documentation.

As a result, we briefly stopped shipments of the 2nd batch to resolve the shipment documentation issues. FedEx notified us we should have these problems resolved and achieve much more efficient shipping this weekend so we can resume batch #2 on Monday.

Here are some photos of the large stocks of 8KX inventory waiting for shipments that should resume Monday. Further we expect to complete all deliveries of batch #2 to FedEx by Friday of next week.

So that covers shipment updates for the first 2 batches. Meanwhile our plants have been very busy producing an even larger batch #3. We expect batch #3 to begin shipping approximately July 21st and the entire batch delivered to the end of the month.

We continue to expect all X backers and some upgrades to be shipped this month. Keep in mind the 8KX shipments are in addition to our normal daily shipments which include previous headsets, accessories, base stations, Index Controllers, RMA’s and more that must be organized, packaged and shipped by our logistics team.

Here are some photos of the packaged inventory ready to depart located at two of our warehouses.
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SolKutTeR · 11. Juli 2020

Recht umfangreiches Hands-On von dem Reddit User -littlej0e-.

Unbiased Pimax 8KX Review
Ladies and gents... Below are my impressions of the Pimax 8KX. Being one of the first people to get one, I thought it best to provide some feedback and hopefully help others in the community that may be evaluating them.
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Disclaimer:
I do not work for Pimax, or any other company that would influence my opinion, and I have not been paid for this review. Pimax as a company has obviously had plenty of issues, but these have already been talked to death in countless forum posts. I purposely chose to keep this review focused on the 8KX itself and provide feedback based on the 8KX's own merit. Love Pimax or hate em', truth is...they've delivered a real gem.
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Background, Configuration, & Reference Info
My PC consists of a Ryzen 3900X, Nvidia 2080 Ti, and 64 Gig of RAM. I've been a gamer for approx. 30 years, but I am still a layman. I've been using VR for approx. 4 years, but I am not a professional reviewer or a VR expert. For reference, I've used the Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index, and now the Pimax 8KX. Below is a list of VR games I tend to play in order of time spent:

DCS World

Elite Dangerous

Pavlov VR

Half-Life: Alyx

Eleven: Table Tennis VR

Blade & Sorcery

Arizona Sunshine

No Man's Sky

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The Good

Packaging: 10/10.
Everything arrived safely in one piece. The packaging definitely gives the impression of a premium look and feel.

Setup: 8/10.
I was told Pimax headsets were very difficult and/or "nuanced" to set up, but that was not my experience at all. Set up was relatively easy and painless. The 8KX paired up with my Valve Index base stations and controllers out-of-the-box and without issue. I did have to google a couple of things to define particular settings and subsequent impacts to performance (more on this later), but it was relatively painless. I recommend watching SweViver's Pimax setup vids on YouTube as they were hugely helpful.

FoV: 10/10.
The increased FoV is fantastic and makes a huge difference. It's difficult to articulate what this adds and it will most likely vary. Personally, I find it so much easier to forget that I'm wearing an HMD and get lost in games. At this point, it would be very difficult to go back to a smaller FoV with another headset. The 8KX definitely spoils you in this regard.

Clarity: 10/10.
Resolution is unrivaled. Text is crisp and very legible. I personally can't see any screen door effect at all, but I'm no expert.

Colors 8/10.
The colors seemed a bit cold out-of-the-box, but improved substantially when I followed SweViver's setup instructions (minus 2 brightness, plus 2 contrast and colors). An OLED display will definitely beat the 8KX, but the colors are still excellent. In my non-expert opinion, the colors are better than the Index. However...it is very hard for me to accurately compare the colors on the 8KX with the Index due to god rays (see below).

God Rays: 10/10.
I didn't notice any god rays on the 8KX at all. Great job by Pimax here! By comparison, the god rays on the Valve index were horrendous. Easily worse than the 8KX and Rift CV1 put together.

Comfort: 8/10.
The 8KX is heavy and definitely heavier than the Index, but it really didn't bother me at all. Both the face and back cushions are very comfortable as is the HMD rig as a whole. However...keep in mind I'm a pretty big dude, so your mileage may vary. If you start feeling neck strain from wearing the 8KX, or any other HMD for that matter, just stick with it. Your neck muscles will adjust eventually.

Nose Flaps: 10/10.
I absolutely LOVE these things. It's a tiny detail, but they make such a huge difference in immersion. They block out the light perfectly from entering the bottom of the HMD and are so comfortable you don't even notice them. This is a fantastic design choice and every VR headset should come with these. I really hope other manufacturers are paying attention.

Modularity: 9/10.
The external audio jack and USB-C ports are fantastic design choices. Again, I hope other manufacturers are paying attention. My only wish would be for more than one of each to support multiple add-on modules and inputs.

Overall Design: 9/10.
Pimax put a ton of thought, effort, and love into this headset and it really shows.

Overall Build Quality: 8/10.
8KX appears to be very good quality. It's really hard to assign a value to something that hasn't been battle tested, but these are my initial impressions. The 8KX feels slightly less solid and durable than the Index, but that is highly subjective and pure speculation. Time will definitely tell. I can already tell the the face and back cushions will wear down fairly quickly (more on this later).

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Miscellaneous Good

Cable guides.
The plastic cable guides/seats are great! They give you slightly more options as to where and how to run the 3-way cable on the rig versus forcing a particular orientation. It's a small detail and not really that important, but it's yet another good design choice in my opinion.

Silicone Sleeve.
Great look and feel! I suspect it will attract dirt and gunk like crazy, but I personally love it (I'm a big, dumb animal and hopefully the silicone grip will help prevent me from dropping the headset).

Flip Up Design.
You can flip the front of the HMD up while keeping the rig on your head. Very good, yet subtle design choice. That said, I'd say it is marginally useful considering you have to loosen the back screw crown adjustment to be able to flip it up in the first place.

Onboard Volume Control.
The 8KX has two up and down volume control buttons located on the top right-hand side of the HMD. Very cool feature. However, I probably don't appreciate this as much as I should because I don't use the build-in audio (more on this below).

Analog IPD Adjustment w/Digital Feedback.
The 8KX has a scroll wheel on the bottom right-hand of the headset that is used to adjust the IPD and provides the exact digital measurement feedback (in mm) inside the headset. This definitely comes in handy...

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The Bad

Sweet Spot.
Sweet spot is extremely small and I had a lot of trouble getting it and keeping it dialed in. I had to tighten the 8KX very firm against my head/face to keep it in place. I presume this is the primary trade-off for a wide FoV.

Distortion.
There is very visible (and highly distracting) lens distortion around the peripherals unless you tighten the rig almost to the point of it being uncomfortable. Pimax could have solved this by adding a lens depth adjustment similar to the Valve Index. This would have helped alleviate the edge distortion and increased comfort in the process. The distortion, along with my sweet spot complaints above, are my only real beefs with this headset.

Face Cushion.
There are small 1inch/25mm wide notches cut out of the left and right sides of the face cushion. These allow light to enter the headset and annoy the living hell out of me. I'm not exactly sure why Pimax did this (for users with glasses probably?!?), but it would be nice to have been given the option of opening or closing them similar to Pimax's other option-oriented design choices. All of that said, this should be a very easy DIY fix.

Balance.
8KX feels very "front heavy" compared to the Index which feels very evenly balanced across my head. The index also "hugs" my head better than the 8KX offering slightly more stability. That said, I used the 8KX for numerous multi-hour gaming sessions, both standing and sitting, and didn't notice any real difference in comfort overall.

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No Opinion

Audio.
I use closed-back external headphones (Beyerdynamic DT 1770 Pro) with my 8KX, so I can't speak to the audio quality. For what it's worth, I do find my studio monitors to be superior to any other audio experience I've tried. But I have heard that open-back headphones are superior for directional audio.

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Nit Picks

Linux support (through SteamVR/OpenHMD/Open Source drivers).
I know Linux VR is a niche of a niche of a niche, and most people don't particularly care, but I do! Pretty please, Pimax! I beg you!!!

Pitool.
The software is pretty simple and easy to use, but this is an enthusiast-level headset. It would be nice to see an "advanced mode" with far deeper levels of customization. Also, Pimax needs to improve the "?" help bubbles to accurately and thoroughly explain what each setting does along with it's potential impact on performance. Doing so would save users the time and effort of having to consult the Googlizer.

Face and Back Cushion Material.
The foam quality is OK, but I think Pimax cheaped out here considering the retail price of this headset. The cushions on the Index are flat out superior. They feel slightly more "cushy" and much cooler to the touch (vastly underrated feature IMO) and are much more resistant to moisture. Pimax should copy this cushion material and use it everywhere on the 8XK.

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TL;DR:
The 8KX is truly fantastic and offers a legit next-level VR experience. It is unrivaled compared to anything else I've tried and -by far- the most immersive experience you can get on planet earth. I still think the Valve Index is probably best for most people (especially those new to VR or those with potato/middle-of-the-road PCs), but the 8KX crushes it most areas that matter: resolution, FoV, and overall immersion. It is easily the top choice for enthusiasts.
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